I'm linking this information page on Rudy Rucker's Saucer Wisdom because of the discussion on the possible nature of time (in the book).

Hey that was a cool read, and cheers for the links too.

"Is higher intelligence already doing this with our most intimate moments now?"

I think it has been doing all along. I have the view that the Akashic (which I was also thinking of writing about, maybe we do share a psychic link!) is something timeless that has everything mapped out, so that whatever we are doing is already logged there and our experiences are always pre-mirrored in that information.

I've had some moments when I've been drifting off to sleep and I've woke back up again with the memory of reading things, sometimes strange symbols that even though I don't recognize, I knew that they made sense at the time. Something seems to intuit symbols that the conscious mind can't get near fathoming, and it's possible that we spend some of our dreaming state actually reading through those records. (which if universal, would contain a massive amount of alien records aswell.) Maybe that stuff isn't allowed back into consciousness because it would literally blow our minds, but the enlightened inner self has a breeze reading through it. Maybe it often reads through some if it if the conscious self is on the verge of a big initiation.

"How many people do you know see things exactly the way you do?"

it reminds me of being in arts class, and the teacher setting up objects which the class had to draw. it is amazing how a same object can appear in so many diferent ways according to who is viewing it, and how the perception of the object is being communicated.

in the same line of thought. i just finished the book Ayahuasca,
http://www.lycaeum.org/books/plantscompounds/ayahuametz.html
which contains trip accounts from various people. one of the things that is fascinating to me, is that each individual gets such diferent visions than the other. as much as there are similarities in the trips, such as wild animals typical of the area the plants are grown in (jaguars, lezards, and plant life), there are also diferences.
as if each individual will carry with them into the trip their own baggage. from pure mystical experiencing of an ego experiencing unity, to Egyptian gods, to past lives, to sexual realizations, to healing properties, the trips are as personalized as there are people to experience tripping.
yet, there does remain one common feeling of general AWE for life, for its magic, a respect for life as a whole and plant teachers, and a feeling of connectedness with a process and others.
it would seem that the plant teachers carry their own meanings, as much as the plant taker carries its own issues. all in all, a very beautiful book.

Pablo Picasso said " to look at art, one has to leave its baggage behind". i think this could apply to trips as well.

to me, the so called "akashic field" has more to do with imagination than actually seing what "is" or "might be". Like watching Mnemosyne dance, i see the process of life as being an endless combinations/RE organization of data. what can be seen while using ones imagination, is most likely probabilities; one way things could be, one way things are or have been somewhere, sometimes. to me, the akashic field could also be perceived as the Void of the Buddhist. a void onto which we choose to put meaning onto, or not. a void which each individual is responsable for creating what they please out of it, or just take the meanings created by others if so the individual is not willing or capable of creating their own meanings. i think each person/life form is an akashic field in itself, the field contained in a yet even broader information bank, add infinitum, arranging and rearranging. I think each beings we meet through various means are parts of ourselves, at various time-spaces.

one could say, that every life form, every being is a cocreator, as well as a cocreation of this thing called life. as Pinchbeck wrote "after the rooting out its witches and shamans and destroying it's visionary traditions, the modern world relied on artists and poets to create pallied simulations of what had been lost.....In the modern world, the artist took over the role of the shaman".

experience VS reading/being told about experience. which one is best? i would say, they each contain their own valid experiences.

on a metaphysical level, on a mystical level, i would agree with you Paul, in saying that there was no begining nor end, or one could say that every moment is a begining and ending in itself. i enjoy the term "process" myself, or the word "change". never again will this moment exist again, it is unique, as every moment is its own space-time.

so, perhaps the very act of "being" is pulling onself from this seemingly Voidic akashic field. as Rodin pulling out his master pieces out of the stone, yet he thought that the stones already contained those shapes, as the alchemists running after the gold, their own inner heart.

thanx for the inspirations Paul.

I find thinkning about this stuff to be encouraging, because it has convinced me that not only is consciousness the most basic stuff that composes existence, but that built into reflective consciousness is the ultimate realization that we are all god eternal. No beginning, no end... no death.

we are already gods, are already this higher intelligence!

I actually had some bumperstickers made up a few months ago. I labored over what message I wanted to broadcast on my 45min commute, looking for the most appropriate summation of insight, transcendent of politics or magick or any other logical boxes. In the end I printed 100 stickers that say, "YOU ARE GOD".

There may be hypertime within hyperspace. Both are always relative and bound to eachother. My experience of time varies from moment to moment, and is certainly different than yours. A hummingbird has a much higher metabolism and, hence, experiences time in much longer durations. The second that a fly has to dodge your hand is much longer than the second it takes you to swat. Time can stop for me while it continues for you. In the void atomic processes continue to occur, waxing and waning with each nuclear tick.

Can consciousness exist without time, or vice versa? Of course, consciousness is a very loaded term and the consciousness of, say, Goswami's Self-Aware Universe is certainly different from mine or yours. It is, perhaps, a collective consciousness, everpresent and infinite, that occasionally peers through the eyes of material beings to view creation in novel ways, like panes on a diamond.

Quantum Uncertainty implies the need for observation to collapse the wave vector and move and event from probability to occurence. In the deepest stellar depths, who's observing the conversion of hydrogen to helium in our solar furnace? Just what is this universal consciousness? Is it even knowable, like the mind of God? Or are we condemned to only ever know reflections of it's vast countenance?

i think it`s the buddhists who ask,"who is the god who makes the grass green?"
certainly,the artist performs the shamanistic role in modern culture.especially predicting the future.that`s why tyrants hunt them down.another reason why the artist must be a warrior also.
i think we can all predict the future,though....if we`re brave enough.

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people don't seem to understand that there is no such thing as time. There is only SPACE. One point in space versus another.

lets obviate confusion and speak simply.

worldpeace,
ben

We will be false Gods, allowed our existance by something beyond our control.

If existance, like you say, has no beginning and has no end, what is the need for existance to have the ability to maintain itself?

For sure, I agree with the conclusion that everything and all things are fundamentally one thing, linked and manipulated and altered, pulled and stretched and forced and flowing into all there is.

But consciousness? Consciousness akin to the soul? The voice trapped inside the biomechanical machine? As the alpha and omega of all things?

Your overview of existance is that there is no Creator, instead there is ever present Consciousness firing the evolution of the originator of every cosmos?

It is a pretty concept, but for all the scientific or metaphysical content of your post you are merely presenting an ALTERNATIVE God.

I see no reason consciousness cannot be a part of the fabric of existance. I see no contemplative evidence as to why Consciousness can BE the fabric of existance, nay the Father/Mother of existance.

There is a lot in your post that is mere conjecture presented as fact. Bubble Universes and Extra Dimensions, large scale timeless structures.
None of these have been proven, let alone here, and while offering undeniable potential in their ability for answers, and indeed accepted by myself as probable truths, they are not unassailable facets of existance.

And the single biggest problem I have with this view is that you offer up a solution to the problems of existance by hiding the same problems behind a new face.

And more than that, you dont begin to address any of the obvious problems with such a scenario.

Why should an entity that is capable of existing when there is nothing to cause it, nothing to demand its existance, require the ability to sustain itself?
It has the Godlike ability to simply 'be', yet it also requires the internal structure of perfect balance and poise in order to create that which we see around us now?

Infact, if I am apart of this God entity of consciousness without time, explain to me how an entity can simply exist without cause nor reason nor necessity, without using the words 'its impossible to understand' or 'it just is'.

I dont think such a situation IS possible, to have all of nature existing in such an 'unnatural' circumstance. To have laws and rules and structures and nice neat balances existing thanks to some Godlike property that can never be explained, studied, or even discussed.

I dont deny God might exist, but if he does then he will be subject to the same fundamental law that ENABLES anything to exist as everything else.

Consciousness does not allow existance, on the contrary consciousness is ABLE to exist due to a fundamental principle or law. God is able to exist due to a fundamental principle or law. Balanced, timeless, and infinate multiverses are able to exist due to a fundamental principle.

But its always easier to find God as the answer to existance, than to find the answer to the existance of God.

I can only recommend, in this context, Michael Talbot's excellent book, **Mysticism & the New Physics**, plus a good LSD and/or Ayahuasca trip (with optimal set/setting, of course...). Psychedelic substance-use--and consciousness exploration in general--is, I should think **obviously**, a First Amendment RIGHT, and any abridgement thereof, much less abrogation, should be subject to the strictest of strict judicial scrutiny. Aside from minimally-invasive and/or minimally-regulatory statutes, ALL LEGISLATION WHICH PURPORTS TO PROHIBIT PSYCHEDELIC EXPLORATION--by any non-violent, non-aggressive means--IS **IPSO FACTO** ***UNCONSTITUTIONAL***, and VOID as a matter of fundamental law. This should be vigorously argued in a law journal article...