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June 07, 2004

Matrioshka Brains

Predictable improvements in lithographic methods foretell continued increases in computer processing power. Economic growth and engineering evolution continue to increase the size of objects which can be manufactured and power that can be controlled by humans. Neuroscience is gradually disecting the components and functions of the structures in the brain. Advances in computer science and programming methodologies are increasingly able to emulate aspects of human intelligence. Continued progress in these areas leads to a convergence which results in megascale superintelligent thought machines. These machines, refered to as Matrioshka Brains, consume the entire power output of stars (~1026 W), consume all of the useful construction material of a solar system (~1026 kg), have thought capacities limited by the physics of the universe and are are essentially immortal.

A common practice encountered in literature discussing the search for extraterrestrial life is the perspective of assuming and applying human characteristics and interests to alien species. Authors limit themselves by assuming the technologies available to aliens are substantially similar or only somewhat greater than those we currently possess. These mistakes bias their conclusions, preventing us from recognizing signs of alien intelligence when we see it. They also misdirect our efforts in searching for such intelligence. We should start with the laws on which our particular universe operates and the limits they impose on us. Projections should be made to determine the rate at which intelligent civilizations, such as ours, approach the limits imposed by these laws. Using these time horizons, laws and limits, we may be better able to construct an image of what alien intelligence may be like and how we ourselves may evolve.

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Posted by paul at June 7, 2004 11:56 PM | TrackBack
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Quantum computing will likely overcome the current limitiations to lithography, making computers vastly more powerful and "fuzzy", not limited to traditional binary operations. Could be a whole new logic...

Posted by: lvx23 at June 8, 2004 12:11 PM

Agreed. The question I have, and still remains to be answered, is quantum computing capable of emulating other types of non-QM computation? From what I can tell, QM is only good at solving 'combinatoric' type problems. Perhaps if there is a way the combinatoric mathematics can be finessed to emulate other types of computing, no matter how inelegant, then it could be very interesting. Even if non-qm types of computation are instantiated using non-elegant methods, quantum computing is so fast, that it might not even matter!

Posted by: Paul Hughes at June 8, 2004 12:24 PM

Also of extreme interest to me is ternary language (trinary).... with such theoretical methodologies as 'yes, no, maybe' and 'yes, no, seek more information' 'yes, no, other' etc. This seems very powerful from certain viewpoints as a fundamental processing environment.... it often makes me think of adding a dimension to a 1 (or 2, depending on how you see it) dimensional environment. some say it would offer the best premise for artificial intelligence..... which leads me to a tangent though... is AI the doorway to alien contact? Anyway..... some good thoughts...

Back to Matrioshka Brains, this kind of extremely vast computational topologies reminds me of a longlost article that passed through our stream in 2001 and I havent heard of since........
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20000831S0019 (reported elsewhere too). basically saying there is nearly, or functionally, infinite storage capacity in a single electron. The possibilities of this are incredible.

My first post to these forums... I love this site!

Posted by: liquis at June 9, 2004 05:55 AM